tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post8154495592144286760..comments2023-09-25T12:03:00.637+01:00Comments on Tom Morton's Beatcroft: That Jonathan Ross/Russell Brand radio debacle, the power of celebrity super-agents, and the unsung genius of Andy DaviesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-53207384074384742442008-11-03T20:36:00.000+00:002008-11-03T20:36:00.000+00:00I'm surprised to read you're such a Ross fan. I ca...I'm surprised to read you're such a Ross fan. I can't listen to the radio show (not nearly enough music, too much dull waffle, the odd funny bit but not enough to make the rest worth suffering) and the TV show is so painful that I only watch if there is a guest I really, really want to see. There are worse people on radio and TV for sure but that's not a reason to keep paying him so much money. I have tried not to read too much on this whole answer machine thing but I've been surprised not to read the question 'how would you feel, Mr Ross, if this message had been about one of your daughters?' (if they were older). He plays a lot on his family man image...so much for that. Russell Brand doesn't pretend to be anything other than what he is (a bit of a tart, sometimes a funny one) but Ross does and should have known better.<BR/><BR/>That Douglas woman...as she is the person responsible for putting Chris Evans on the drivetime R2 show I'm glad she's gone. Can we have someone else on that show now please?Rachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-21771800207466304932008-10-31T21:34:00.000+00:002008-10-31T21:34:00.000+00:00norrie what anonymous is telling you is thathe is ...norrie what anonymous is telling you is thathe is as big an asshole as that pair of simpletonsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-50824196065009113802008-10-31T13:43:00.000+00:002008-10-31T13:43:00.000+00:00I enjoy(ed) both of the culprits' radio shows very...I enjoy(ed) both of the culprits' radio shows very much - usually in podcast form - and would disagree about Russell Brand's value as a performer and presenter. He annoyed me initially, but I very quickly saw that he is a very intelligent, well-read and eloquent man . . when he wants to be. He could do with an Andy by his side, and it's interesting to note that Jonathan Ross was sitting in in the absence of his usual sidekick Matt Morgan - perhaps his nearest equivalent to Ross's Andy, and often a (slightly) stabilising influence.<BR/><BR/>However, I do recognise that they clearly crossed the line on this occasion - though, as a long-time listener to the Brand podcast, there have been a few other incidents which were nearly on a par.<BR/><BR/>I think the important thing for the BBC to realise now is that they need to be careful - in this ever evolving media age we now live in - not to marginalise themselves and become too stuffy and old-fashioned by comparison to what's out there in independent podcasts, youtube, etc. Their fingers have clearly been badly burnt by getting too far down the 'edgy' route, but they definitely need to make sure not to react too far in the other direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-25532105248933697182008-10-31T00:05:00.000+00:002008-10-31T00:05:00.000+00:00Can't agree about Jonathan Ross, Tom. Jonathan Ros...Can't agree about Jonathan Ross, Tom. Jonathan Ross just seems to me like a 'dirty old man'. Brand is much less clever than he thinks he is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-69650958114068999612008-10-30T22:45:00.000+00:002008-10-30T22:45:00.000+00:00I agree with most of what you say Tom, although I ...I agree with most of what you say Tom, although I do like Russell Brand , but he's got a long way to go before he can be considered in the same class as Ross.<BR/><BR/>I much prefer the Jonathan Ross radio show to his Friday night TV show, not really a big fan of talk shows, unless the guests are interesting, which all too often they aren't. I think another reason for preferring the radio show to the telly show is the musical input of Andy Davies and the way him and Ross interact with each other. I might be wrong, but did Andy not used to appear on the TV show as well?<BR/><BR/>I fear that the Jonathan Ross we see and hear after he's served his suspension, may never be as raw and cutting edge as he was before "Sachsgate", but fingers crossed that he makes a return to form.<BR/><BR/>I think it's safe to say that neither Ross or Brand will be offered a column for The Daily Mail in the foreseeable future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-88488469800393465722008-10-30T15:21:00.000+00:002008-10-30T15:21:00.000+00:00interesting read Tom. I'm mostly insulated from B...interesting read Tom. I'm mostly insulated from Brand herein the US, thankfully. I was quite surprized to discover yesterday that the word that immediately popped into my head to describe Brand had been previously used for that same purpose by Bob Geldof.jtonnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04155655459512075605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-58275912690052160282008-10-29T21:33:00.000+00:002008-10-29T21:33:00.000+00:00Wed eveningGood. One down; one to go.Wed evening<BR/><BR/>Good. One down; one to go.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03977228313657914526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-23392719064383078652008-10-29T16:13:00.000+00:002008-10-29T16:13:00.000+00:00hi tomwho is mr. / mrs anonymous , brand or wossy?...hi tom<BR/>who is mr. / mrs anonymous , brand or wossy? or their mothershoolethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795628515657808772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-73389082276545534392008-10-29T13:19:00.000+00:002008-10-29T13:19:00.000+00:00I am not been funny Anonymous but what did your co...I am not been funny Anonymous but what did your comments mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-58831861662573187752008-10-29T11:39:00.000+00:002008-10-29T11:39:00.000+00:00As I understand it, Messrs Ross and Brand are empl...As I understand it, Messrs Ross and Brand are employed by the BBC as cutting-edge commentators on this Modern Society we are bound to live in, using their cutting-edge humour and erudite asides as the mirror they hold up to reflect the risible mores of this Society in a cutting-edge, erudite kind of way. Although the renumeration they receive for these skills is very substantial indeed, I defy anyone to gainsay their considerable acumen in leaving obscene phone messages for a (now) obscure actor, who let's face it, has done nothing of note since "Fawlty Towers" ended.<BR/><BR/>I whole-heartedly support Wossy's and Brand's comedic duty to point this out by leaving what have been described as "puerile" messages on Mr Sachs' voicemail, thus exposing the fact that although the comedic character essayed by Mr Sachs in the said sitcom will long remain in blessed memory, even unto the day when Wossy's and Russell's bones will have been rendered to dust on the cheating breeze, Mr Sachs should be looking for a higher profile, preferably through his more nubile female relatives.<BR/><BR/>If that means Russell Brand must bring to bear his cutting-edge humour by making lewd and lascivious innuendos regarding Mr Sachs's grand-daughter, then I think we should defer to his judgement as an erudite, cutting-edge commentator on this crazy world that we live in, and bumper his name up unto the rafters!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-78095531431611435852008-10-29T11:38:00.000+00:002008-10-29T11:38:00.000+00:00Well written piece and I pretty much agree with al...Well written piece and I pretty much agree with all that you say. I think the whole episode is pretty unsavoury to be honest and in a way I would be glad if some pretty strong action was taken. Like you I thoroughly enjoy the Radio 2 show, principally because I think SAndy selects some excellent music, I am a big Bowie fan so I suppose I am less bothered about that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-19308910806721300152008-10-29T10:10:00.000+00:002008-10-29T10:10:00.000+00:00Can't agree about Jonathon Ross I'm affraid. The g...Can't agree about Jonathon Ross I'm affraid. The guy is a buffoon.<BR/><BR/>The interview with Daniel Craig - which should have been a highlight of the week - so was bad it was embarrasing.<BR/><BR/>As for Russell Brand..............,Brian Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712426583825079117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704984.post-65225328193997118312008-10-29T10:03:00.000+00:002008-10-29T10:03:00.000+00:00Can't agree about Jonathon Ross Tom, the guy is a ...Can't agree about Jonathon Ross Tom, the guy is a buffoon.<BR/><BR/>In the week leading up to the release of a new James Bond movie, the interviw with Daniel Craig last week should have been memorable. It wasn't. It was embarrasing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com